Even with constant proofreading, dyslexia can be an annoyance. Now anybody would learn to hate the world if you were always trying to help and people and they just spat in your face, which from her point of view is what is happening. Growing up with no friends everyone hating them in school, I can't believe their parents are so blinded by religion they don't even know what they're putting the kids through, very sad!! In this documentary, I saw a family who's more true to fundamentalist Christianity than any other mystical faith church organization in the country and possibly the world. i'd much rather take the chance that maybe i'll go to hell when i die rather than spend my life making hell by spreading hate like you. Please go back to school. In a 2007 UK documentary by Welsh personality Keith Allen, in which Phelps-Roper and some of her children agreed to appear, Phelps-Roper is shown admitting on camera that her oldest son was born out of wedlock. It is not a church but a cult and it is dangerous. Personally I think these people don't really believe what they are professing to believe. Get a sneak peek of the new version of this page. on the day of judgment". Like how could anybody smile at the fact that people have died? Only god has the right, the authority and the perfection to pass judgement over anyone, but yet these people and all bible based religions do so. Many Christians explain that God is ultimately love and merciful but I do not think believe people this church is working for God. this is eye opening, i have deep sadness in seeing the deception they believe as truth. So anyway, I just think everyone should watch this and see if their opinions change at all. why doesnt he judge each person on their own actions and merits not those of your ancestors. omg this is driving me nuts. Bridget DeMeis also contributed to this post. Me being away from everything, and with help of friends I became more open minded and I saw things completely differently. Are you serious? Denotative meanings are strict and literal meanings of words. Wow. I am married to my wife, and marriage is not all about sucking and f--king. I am really sad at heart for all of them. The doctrines they preach and the solidarity with which they believe them. As you continually remind us, it is our duty to point out as people stray from the word of God and his law. As soon as we all stop giving gravity to these zealots, the better we all will be. At the same time, by doing that we would be no netter than them...it's like they're a test America had to pass... People like this rationalize to an extreme. This will bring the character of God full circle---judgment on sin---an age of grace---judgment on sin without any further delay. So is his wife and kids. ill go to hell, just as long as they won't be there. I honestly would not be surprised if someone kills these people one day when they say the wrong thing too close to someone in pain. None whatsoever. You are wasting your and our time! Revelation 19:11 Do you practise or believe in "polygamy"? It is a mash of contradiction because each chapter was not written on its own by one person but several people throughout history who were definitely not born in the same periods of time. We learned the truth about him. They should go to hell for trying to IMPERSONATE God. Allen found hypocritical Phelps-Roper's vocal condemnation on strangers having sexual congress outside of marriage while she herself was guilty of the same. When asked about other things the Bible teaches like forgiveness, mercy, kindness etc they simply refuse to talk. I'm glad my God has mercy. PS: Is there some way for me do donate funds to your cause? Has to be upwards mobility. @saundra g - while i applaud your live-and-let-live-and-let-god-do-the-judging apathy, i'm not sure you actually watched the video. there bloody well be' a Rapture to take away all you vile religious Loony Toons! I think their leader has some problems, but all cult leaders have problems (or they are in it for the money like Benny Hinn). and screw them for saying god even hates anyone. And no, if you arent Catholic you still cant bloody well blame it on them as if youre lot are a completley seperate organisation (but not actually, but are, but...). I apologize if this offended anyone with some of my statements or all of it.)). If he neither wants to nor can, he is both weak and spiteful, and so not a god. I feel so sad about college age girl. Rose, because you care about the Bible does not mean others do. She seemed sad and conflicted to me. FYI, There is no God other than... Y'Shua HaMaschiach Ve'Melech HaYehudim..!!! By the way, 1.66 billion "Muslims" say your Christ was not really crucified, not that I believe in any religion, but are you then going to say they are all wrong? Some are, but many are not. Hate is definitely"God's way!". They never mentioned love between two people at all. What they are interested in is exercising their right to speak out against a class of people which by the way includes others such as Jewish Americans and other religious groups such as Unitarians. Does not mean that we should but we are human and God knows that. They dont go to war in favor of a certain group, they fight in the best interest of the entire country, and these Westboro freaks are associated in the word "nation." Gods not against homosexuality. These people are going to go to hell. calling them a bigot when they are not but only because you disagree with what they are saying...is being a bigot. I just don't get how the younger ones see what they do as "warning" people when they also openly state they don't believe in forgiveness. But he is also fair, kind, and most importantly forgiving. That has not been told yet. Intrestingly 1 million americans are in the armed forces willing to die for their country, but hwo many americans would die for their religion? I really like this guy (Carl Sherburne) and his plan so like and share to get it out there, but if you want to f*** with the Westboro Baptist Church... Click this link below for a page made by our buddies over at anonymous which has all of the details of church members including home addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, and work details! They are protected under the Freedom of Speech and their "religion" is registered. Good night. Male gorillas court and couple with each other, grizzly bear families have two mothers, male swans form pair-bonds with one another and female long-eared hedgehogs have oral sex. ? Most of these people are mere children. May the eyes of their hearts be open to the God of Love. 3. If weed is a gateway drug than religion is a gateway to hate and murder. They have a right to their views and their freedom of speech, but to target groups of people with that message, in such an aggressive manner, surely takes no respect of the rights of the individual being targeted. i will laugh when jesus accepts everyone BUT fred phelps and his skanks. They say they are hated and I suppose they forgot the saying - you reap what you sow. no its not sinful if two gay men love each other but not have gay intercourse Good and bad. for those who have underestimated louis, watch other documentaries of his - you will recognise his style and see that this allows him to ask questions others might not get away with. @Cezen, you can download Fall from Grace from iTunes as a movie, not sure of other places where you might find it. I can't believe children are growing up like this, not able to have a care-free childhood. That's what He came to do. The families of these young men now have a photograph for a son. It was ordained by God, based upon sin. We're supposed to keep evolving. They are also a perfect example of how easily the undereducated can be brainwashed to believe just about anything. That's what America needs more of. It is that same lack of understanding from these people that really upsets you, no? this "church" and I use that word lightly..Picketed a 6 victims here in Atchison Kansas after a grain elevator exploded..The outrage in this small town was evident. It's sooo bad, it's off the charts. Are you still on that "Noah's" kick? It is there in black and white. They have only succeeded in letting their community know that they are vindictive, spiteful, mean, and abusive douchbags. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. lol open your eyes! They are picketing just to picket anymore. It is quite astounding how deeply fixed these people's mindset has become. I hope not lol The Christian God is not about killing people. Obviously these people are closet homosexuals! If you aren't one of them, you get to chuckle and go on with your life. entertaining and funny in a almost naive slick way I love his docs. About 30 years ago, the Dead Sea Scrolls confirmed the authenticity of the 5 books, however the King James or Christian Protestant version still does not include them. However every member of this cult is lieing to themselves. If any of these young girls want to marry a 65 year old Darwinist, they should let me know. Phelps fought for and won civil liberties for several African Americans. If you have no confidence in his decision making, then go tell him. Like her father. I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. Look at a table and put all your knowledge on it, what's off the ledge of your table is what i am asking about. Big Dipper: I read your posts because NA said you were very spot on. I am ashamed to be an American, because of people like you. Really. I'm in the Lord's army. Amen. .. Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels, was the Nazi minister of propaganda from 1933 through 1945 and after the War the word acquired such a negative connotation it is rarely used except to describe something we feel is bad or wrong. Its against others rights and who says that its the old man, the preist, beliefs more than it is in the Bible. Even for those who do not believe He is the Son of God, He is worth following and His message of peace and love should continue and be spread. Think about it. Do you guys really think it is that important to let any nobody spout crap because he is entitled to freedom speech. What they are doing is wrong. What saddens me, is the complete rejection of the point by certain posters of this video. She needs to know what she is talking about because she has no clue. This is disgusting. It is amazing, that people who believe in god, preach such a double sided message. I just saw angry argumentative hate driven people and I was constantly sidetracked and in awe with how they treated Louie which made me not see this movie and the Phelps family in it's/their entirety. I think its sad that they would say anything that may potentially hurt someone else, as well as I think its sad that anyone would hurt them. Beyond which, who goes to hell would be God's decision, and not yours. When you think of peace, is the first thought that comes into your head "murder?" Once an idea immerges in the mind of a very focus person(scientist or not) then that idea comes to be accepted as right or wrong, nothing is thought to be right if only one person thinks it's right. There is so much anger there. Sure, they're message is extreme, but at least they're committed to something. And the The most 'HONEST ONE' of them all? Fred Phelps was an attorney and could write some of the best briefs in the business. Not everyone. He does not want the world to know that. The programme follows as Theroux revisits the family at the core of the Westboro Baptist Church and observes how its members have changed since … Had they guns you can bet there'd be a Waco II on the news... i myself are not religious at all but i must say that this group of people are discusting, however they do not represent the majority of christians. There is "grace" and God is patient, so that all who are willing can come avail themselves of His grace at this time. I feel only pity for you. Let them make up their own minds when they grow up. What would you think of other parents who did that to their 5 and 6 year old children? I'm not thrilled with the concept of abortion, but what right do we have to say over that woman's body? Amen. in an important present While what they do is wrong, is it any different then what most America does? We in this country let a lot pass for "church". Tophaed2- You are correct up to a point. that is all they deserve. This is a very interesting documentary. They also seem to both honor and abuse the 1st Amendment of the Constitution, which states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.". I loved every scene when people were flipping off that "cult". The pastor of their church doesn't even use scripture in his sermons which is a huge problem. ", He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.". And religion has had its fair share of deaths in the wars that religion has started. Instead of following the every word or such second hand rendering, best to follow his example and go straight to the source or the word which is God and all things. You are a kind benevolent God and Lord I pray with my heart that you will save your lost sheep, for this family are most lost by believing they are found. Christians are told in the Bible to love even those people that hate us. Then they'd get a 747 crashed into their church. That is because it has nothing to do with our freedoms. Yeah, even at a funeral. all of a sudden god decided to send himself down and tell everyone that if they believe in him they get to go to heaven....sounds like a fairy tale to me. Maybe some uninhabited island where nothing "gay" will find them...pssh, a--holes...I think that Gramps guy had a gay lover who left him, breaking his heart and making him hate all things gay. But this is just my opinion :). But the trouble with a lot of religee's they only read or see what they want to read and see. Why bless those that hate you? Theroux should be proud at the great job he did of describing the Westboro Baptist Church. It is what it is. You are right, they are a cult. pleas dont hate these people, their ideas on life are as F@#$ up as mine. It boggles my mind! As you have pointed out so many times, and I applaud you for recognizing at least some of the truth revealed in the scriptures, you cannot argue nor debate my pointing out your many, many transgressions against the Lord your God. Many of us have trouble with the concept, because just something you are told or have read or even saw movies about? 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. I did think that given the direct reference to and contrast I draw to hypocrite it would be obvious to those falling within the 90th percentile of functional literacy. I feel they will inevitably destroy themselves as a result of their vehement messages towards everything and everyone unlike themselves. So timeless that time loses its meaning. These people are obvisually obessed with a religion that they don't even know half about. 53 But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. Every adult member of the Phelps Clan has a college education or some advanced education past high school. Many people use the Bible like a weapon to hurl abuse and hatred. not Bile based". To say that the Devil lures gay people tohim would be to say that God is weak, and who wants a weak God? soon would be best. If he wants to and cannot, then he is weak - and this does not apply to god. If that is the case than everything that he has taught them would be wrong. I also noticed how attractive she was. I guess the point I was trying to get across was that all bigotry is wrong, but these people don't know anything different, and those who do are shunned and chastised for the rest of their life by the church. Arent't they based in America??? 'These people are NOT true followers of Jesus. The point that I mentioned above is that Fred Phelps never hated gay people until he went looking for a group of people that he could hoist his anger on and that he would get the attention of other people especially the media. God loves everyone. So what we do, is let them get the attention, let them take that next radical step, let them bury themselves. PS: These people belong in jail! Your arrogance will come bk to you will a deep penalty that mY NOT BE PAID BK IN THIS LIFE..BUT TRUST ME. Social "Darwinism" stems from a profound misunderstanding of evolutionary theory. either you have me mixed up with someone else or, yo dog you mergin with me? These people shouldn't be hated, but pitied, and their message frowned upon. We as Americans will let the door hit you on ass as you leave. ( thats just a little scramble together of different topics hope you like it). Either way, for people who claim to not be anally fixated, they do spend a lot of time thinking about it. All of these things keeps you away from the will of God. Try to believe in fairy tales, it would be a lot easier!!!!!! That's the trouble with mankind, that they make things which are so easy so hard to accomplish, go one day without thinking a bad thought about anyone, try it, telling a lie or gambling on the lottery or betting on a horserace, there is not one person in this world who can't, so we all disobey the law, also read the mosaic law of 613 in the Mitzvot, you really think Christ wants us to keep them. We are yet to find any solid "Proof" of any so called god. Mercy is given to whom mercy from God is asked for, and judgment is given to those that do not seek God's mercy at the end of life. What I noticed helped me understand this family and this video better was watching it a 2nd time. , this creature is WAY creepy ! These people are just full of nonsense... Violence is more than just physically hurting someone. Bull. She has a very unhealthy allegiance to this man. I think this is the only time I have ever, or will ever, agree with Sean Hannity. No quarter. Fred Phelps used to be a very good civil rights attorney but he got too angry at a court reporter and went after her like he does the gay population. (Note for Williamson: I’m not saying I’m against single motherhood or having a child out of wedlock, as long as the child is loved and taken care of properly – I’m saying Shirley is a great example of just how utterly hateful, twisted and unable to live by their own rules these folks truly are.). What you wrote is probably one of the most beautiful messages I've ever heard come from someone describing themselves as Christian. The Christian, and all religions are the scourge of the Earth I tell you. I don't really see these people as dangerous but...insane? They are not good at communicating to the entire world. They are a disgrace to mankind. Matthew 7:15-20 They are just pulled with the adults in the church. The media has started turning away from them. To make my point there is no truth in bible or any such thing and if there is a god why would he give them so much rules and give them free will at the same time and don't say anything stupid like he need to be worship or something if there is a "god" like the one you say why would he care about any of use he knows all and sees all so why would he pay attention to what you say sense he already know what you are going to say. I'm not a believer at all myself, I find "living to die" a pretty strange concept, I prefer living life and when I die I'll see if there's more, if there isn't at least I've *lived* my *life*. As I understand it the family protests at funerals of dead soldiers, saying things such as "God hates America," "You're going to hell," and other -hateful- things. A family of sociopaths? There are some good things about the Phelps. If I see two more minutes of this I will vomit. The book carefully reflexes on itself so it can provide arguments to questions which are not structured. i found myself having to pause it, refresh myself and reconvene. I understand your commitment to the word of God in reference to your fulfilling your duty to remind us all of our duty to the laws of your Lord God as laid down in Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”. No, it was my fault in the first place, I've had to deal with my dyslexia for years, and I usually read a post two or three times before I respond to it. With Louis Theroux, Lauren Drain, Steve Drain, Fred Phelps. Finally, there is a quote for everything. I didn't want to come across as preachy or anything like that. If nothing else, it would be an educational, productive, and dutiful project that could result in several positive outcomes. You say pretty straight forward, well that is not straight forward from you, it is straight from someone else in this case Feynman. The God I pray to is about Faith, Hope and Love. can imagine that a few of these pastors will go to the dark side, conjuring God helps us. Once the older daughter snaps out of her state of delusion I would love to meet and get to know her in every way possible. IGNORE THESE PEOPLE! no the sad part is they are doing only PART of what the bible tells them to the part that was done away with by the coming of jesus whos own words shared in the wisdom of "love thy neighbor as thy self" what we need to do is to remember that it is not our place to judge others (judge not less thee be judged) and we need to remember that it is others choices to do what they do and ours to do what we need to do to serve god, not preach what we "think" is his will. I mean, if I was a member of that Episcopal church that burned down what's to stop me from thinking that THEY did it and taking revenge? they say its not through their actions that's caused us sinners pain and suffering, its because cause we hate the words they are saying and picketing, which is the word of "God" >_> I hope we can eventually export these people else where, they don't belong in such a wonderful place, with such freedoms that we have here. You are right about the fees. Well, their family is cursed because some of their family members do not believe what they believe. Any chance you could put on "Keith Allen will burn in hell", it's another doc about Westboro baptist church but it's quite funny - I think some people will enjoy it! The way to win the argument is to be kind and friendly to them. But theyre not publicised as much as the WBC are because JWs dont go about saying nasty s*it like WBC. Children learning to hate. Maybe you should join The WBC Too. Their love of getting attention is very old. a dot is an extremely compressed o You hapless sinner. I don't believe in God but I do know if he truly exists he would say something like this: "Life is wonderful. from Alpha to Omega They give a bad name to people who believe in god, making everyone seem like a brainwashed idiots. i just wonder how comes u r still alive. Adults control their world, my world (considering I'm only sixteen), but we are influenced by those around us. though shalt not judge.. They were taught to be leaders. What about a draft? God is a god of love and He is love and yes He is also a god of wrath.. I mean they have lost their critical thinking, they just critisise. I was not surprised to hear the following comment made by a bishop: "any religion that worships a godess is degenerate" or the catholic priest who advised a man with aids not to wear a condom when he has sex with his wife...religion that devalues and chastises women is no different to one that hates homosexuality. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. These people are sick and need Jesus! It was to die and to save humanity. Alexa, I haven't watched the video because I know it's just more Christian bashing. 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