Dibsville. I've been using Zweihander, and likely will not change. Zweihander and Greatsword R1's are the same speed Zweihander has a faster R2 Zweihander's R2 pancakes and travels a long distance Greatsword's R2 is a simple stab that can be outranged, sidestepped, or very easily parried as you have enough time to literally see the start of the attack and get close to parry even with lag. Astora's is also lighter. Close. That is, it’s too long to wear, and too big to use in one hand with any reasonable expectation of ease. With such reach and a Pose break of 53, which is not very affordable after considering mobility, the running attack is a great way to dead-angle and to halt running back stabs. Any thoughts? Watch Queue Queue This weapon is the heaviest, the biggest and probably the strongest you can acquire early in your early adventure. Well, in some cases, not bloody much. Proud owner of this mediocre looking, poorly maintained and typically Dark Souls relevant blog. Astora's on a quality, Zwei on a strength. The Abyss Greatsword scales it’s damage with soft humanity, and while, say, a chaos zweihander would outdamage it, the zwei doesn’t have the rad moveset or badass look to it (it probably does, I’ve just done 3 or 4 runs with it so it feels bland). This video is unavailable. The reverse is true for light armour. So... is there ANY advantage in using the Greatsword? since it has better scaling. Assuming the Wiki is right, the only differences are the requirements and the moveset, but the Greatsword's thrust is much better, at least in my opinion. What's better? The Abyss Greatsword shares the longest reach of any weapon in its class, along with the two other swords of Artorias. Also, if you guys have any … This land was overrun by the abyss, spread by Manus. Hiring new mercenaries: Hedge Knight, Crusader. add a comment | 0. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. You wouldn't be using the Greatsword on a Leo build though. Loot in battle: Brigand Leader, Hedge Knight, Zweihander. The greatsword actually does a lot more poise damage with each swing. The Abyss Greatsword is a much better version of the Greatsword of Artorias. I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). Posted by. That's new to me, never really payed attention to the differences between thrust and slash defenses. Acquired From; Zweihander. Here is the build http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=249311689700564021 7 years ago. Greatsword of Artorias +5 (Cursed) = 237 Attack, 100 critical, C str, dex, int, & faith modifiers. Why, Sif? TheNeeoo TheNeeoo. they do about the same damage in PvP and PvE, but i like the astora moveset. Param Bonus. Thrusting attacks also get a bonus for counter damage, even without the Leo Ring. 2020. Abyss Greatsword prepare to be disappointed .. hide. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Trivia 5 Upgrades 6 Videos Sold by Greirat for 6,000 souls once he returns from his pillaging travel in the Undead Settlement. Crystal Greatsword: 190 – – – 100 C C – – 60 8.0 Flamberge: 100 – – – 100 D C – – 160 6.0 Great Lord Greatsword: 256 – – – 100 D D – – 400 8.0 Greatsword of Artorias: 120 85 – – 100 C C B B 400 10.0 Greatsword of Artorias (Cursed) 178 – – – 100 C C C C 400 10.0 Man-serpent Greatsword Mon May 27, 2013 10:56 am. 7 years ago. 9 years ago. I got my Zwei at +10 and I'm not sure if I should make it +15 or if I should make it into the abyss greatsword and upgrade that. For the Dark Souls variant, see Zweihander. May 22, 2017 @ 9:13pm what else is good? Use another weapon to make an abyss. Further, you can boost thrust damage with the leo ring. It is an excellent choice for you if you like the claymore but with some extra power behind it. Watch Queue Queue. Notes: Give to Frampt to receive 50 souls. Smallsword versus two-handed sword - which has the advantage and what can each swordsman do to counter the other? Profaned Greatsword is a weapon in dark souls 3. PSN: Dibsville EarthScraper wrote:OK, now I've just learnt that you never mess with Dibs on a Dark Souls topic, cause he will put you down. 1. Name & Icon: Attack Power Damage Reduction (%) Requirements. A powerful relic, as well as a reminder of how … They both have the exact same scaling. That would probably make an abyss greatsword. How to Get / Where to Find the Abyss Greatsword. For the Dark Souls II variant, see Zweihander (Dark Souls II). Report Save. Besides, you can use it early in the game (just run to the cemitery and take it). share | improve this answer | follow | answered Oct 14 '14 at 18:20. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Question. What's better? The difference in attack rating between 0 and 10 humanity is around 74 at minimum stat requirements. Had to go no armor against Manus, he was just to fast and furious to dodge in my usual Elite Knight armor set. You could buy a bas.♥♥♥♥ sword from Andre. Comparing the Zweihander and the Greatsword I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). The Greatsword is more versatile due to its moveset, but less practical due to its shorter range and weight. That said, the difference is really a matter of preference. © Valve Corporation. Durability / Weight - Attack Type - Skill; Skill. Located on a corpse in the graveyard between the Firelink Shrine and The Catacombs behind three Skeletons and one Giant Skeleton. 145. Artorias' Greatsword vs Zweihander. Also, the Greatsword's base damage is 400 vs the Zweihander's 360. On the flip side, its R2 attacks are nearly useless. 1. share. … WHY? A long two-handed blade as good for crushing as for cutting. Pancakes beat stabs any day of the week. If you already have the faith, int and dex requirements for the Abyss Greatsword it's worth the farming time to try it. 7 comments. However, there is almost no armour where the thrust resistance isn't at least equal or lower than the regular value. Abyss Dweller. #2. for the motherland. Weapon: Zweihander … 2. 8 comments. December. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. A greatsword is one word to describe a dedicated two-handed sword. Question. OnionBro. Thrust damage is advantageous because there is no armour that is particularly good versus it. Obtained by transposing the Soul of the Blood of the Wolf and 10,000 souls with Ludleth of Courland. The Greatsword should do more damage with the stats you have. Ascension with the Soul of Artorias and any normal +10 Greatsword, straight sword or dagger (exept Broken Sword or Straight Sword Hilt). Daniel is a freelance writer currently writing lists for CBR and TheGamer. an Enchanted Greatsword +5 has better int scaling(A) than an Enchanted Zweihander +5(B), according to the wiki. Dissappointing, because they look badass. Can be found in the Undead Frozen Pond event. Damage scales with Humanity and caps at 10. solari71. level 1. I personally prefer the greatsword, since it can do both normal and thrust (strong attack). the moveset on that sword is a lot of fun, and its almost never seen in pvp so you could catch people by surprise with it. Unsung hero wielded an enormous greatsword, and with the last strike, the weapon absorbed a bit of the dark beast's soul. Zweihander Ultra Greatsword. I can't find a definitive answer for whether one is better or not. 0. I gave it away not long after making it .. Abyss greatsword and greatsword of artorias are both far underpowered. It also has an amazing moveset. I have never used these before, and would liek to roleplay as artorias (or maybe just a paladin.) Posted by 1 month ago. This shockwave extends past the length of the blade, and can cause staggering without actually causing any damage. Archived. On a strength build, I use the Zweihander prior to the Demon Machete. You can upgrade a dagger or straight sword to +10 for about 52,000 souls. They are actually identical, the wikispaces website is incorrect. Why not have both? Zweihander has more reach, I believe, plus that 2H R2 is so friggin' sexy... Ohhh man, with chaos? It is 100 damages lower but permit me to fast roll, totally worth it. share. Greatsword weighs 2 units more, requires 4 extra stat points, and has the same amount of damage. What is it that everyone likes about the zwei, the lower strength requirement? The difference is that the greatsword strong attack is a thrust damage type. Should I ascend my Zweihander to Artorias' Greatsword or just upgrade it normally? report. Zweihander's R2 pancakes and travels a long distance Greatsword's R2 is a simple stab that can be outranged, sidestepped, or very easily parried as you have enough time to literally see the start of the attack and get close to parry even with lag. It is usually much lower on heavy armour, though not on every set. Can be found in the Free Greenskin Prisoners contract. The Zweihander have the same basic attack and the strong attack of the Zweihander, in my opinion, is a litlle better. There's only 1 zwei per playthrough. Zweihander vs Greatsword. "Greatsword of the Black Knights who wander Lordran. The wolf knight was the first Abyss Watcher, and his sword is more punishing against creations of the abyss. When you enter the cementary you will see a few skeletons and at least one Close. Abyss Greatsword is a Weapon in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered. May 22, 2017 @ 9:07pm I'd go for Astora, if it's only a choice between those two. I got my Zwei at +10 and I'm not sure if I should make it +15 or if I should make it into the abyss greatsword and upgrade that. Vertical Ultra Greatswords have the standard Ultra Greatsword moveset when they are 1-handed, but when 2-handed, the normal attacks turn into vertical slams and the ability to hit behind the user when the second normal attack is used. Can be bought from a Weaponsmith. All rights reserved. Any dagger, straight or great sword will make the Abyss greatsword. The hero tried to stop the growing dark, tried to defeat Manus, and succeeded. 76% Upvoted. Finally we got together and did the last brawl to conclude which UGS is the best! While the wiki may say both have the same letter-grade scaling, there IS still a possibility of difference: it is possibly that one may scale slightly better but still qualify as "B" scaling. On 25th December 2020 By . Adyr's Harbringer #2. level 1. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. share. Both weapons at +5 enchanted have [E(15) / E(6)/ A(108) / --] scaling values. Ore Smelters increase availability. 8 Moonlight Greatsword. But now I'm stuck with unused faith stats, likely I'll start over for better build... Last edited by C03; Nov 16, 2016 @ 5:59pm < > Showing 1-15 of 23 comments . Zweihander vs Greatsword. Report Save. Haven't found it yet but I will keep an eye out for it. Damn I'm getting turned on at the thought. #1. The Zweihander can be found in the cementary where the The_Catacombs is. If you compare the special damage resistances on armour to their defence vs regular type attacks, heavy armour has much higher resistance to slash, while usually lower resistance to strike. Everyone seems to love the Zwei, but it seems no love is given to the greatsword. zweihander dark souls. 1. share. I use the zwei because it's lighter and looks cooler, but the greatsword I would say has a much more useful r2. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). I find Mugenmonkey's build calculator to be a much better source than the wikis, which have lots of errors. Zweihander vs. astora Which one should i use? but I think that, their stat requirements and their movesets are all the differences there are between them. 548 1 1 gold badge 5 5 silver badges 10 10 bronze badges. I might just have to equip the Mask of the Father. save hide report. < > Showing 1-10 of 10 comments . Artorias' Greatsword vs Zweihander. If infusing with an element, go astora's as it has higher elemental scaling then most weapons in the game. I don't have anything to back this up...but it seems like the Zweihander does more poise damage. Yallus. I hope you enjoy my and Franzetta's epic brawl. the astora has 612 AR and the zwei has 644 AR. Greatsword is an all around better damage dealer. Home. As for using abyss or not, you need to decide if the requirements are worth it. In your experiences, which one of these is best? Zwei hander is one of the best ultra greatswords you can acquire. Zweihander all the way. Using the Ultra-greatsword Zweihander against Manus. Press J to jump to the feed. Maybe I've just used it more... A possible reason for this is the zweihander has a shockwave during its r2 attacks, when it connects with the ground. So... is there any difference besides the strong attack of the Greatsword? 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